Let's study ID (Introduction)

by dhw, Friday, September 17, 2021, 13:44 (1161 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: The question is why, if his one and only purpose was to design us and our food, did he design all the extinct life forms that had no connection with our food? You have no answer, and so you advised me to ask God.

DAVID: My answer is unacceptable to you, but entirely logical to me. God chose to evolve us over time.

It is unacceptable because it does not answer the bolded question!

DAVID: As usual you have presented your views of a God who wanders along without direct purpose…

dhw: Your usual total distortion of what I offer. A free-for-all that he can enjoy creating and watching is a direct purpose. Experimenting to find the right formula for a creature that could mimic himself is a direct purpose.

DAVID: Only if you envision a God who starts without purposes.

I have just given you two purposes, and you say I envision a God without purposes!

DAVID: Your humanized God makes your theories logical, but you split up God's works into two unrelated forms: precise and wandering. How inconsistent of you.

dhw: There is no wandering. Both free-for-all and experimentation are precise.

DAVID: A God without controls or plans is not the God I see.

There is no wandering. In your piece on theodicy you have him losing control (“Errors are spontaneous. Not God’s doing”), and if what he plans is a free-for-all, clearly he WANTS to cede control!