Let's study ID: giraffe plumbing: cognition (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Thursday, November 11, 2021, 18:37 (23 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: You never stop dodging. For the ad nauseamth time: If humans were his goal, why did he specially design countless life forms that had no connection with humans? If he was capable of designing completely new life forms without any precursors, why didn’t he produce sapiens directly? Your answer: “No idea. Go and ask God.” Yes, if God exists, our reality is his creation. But your theory concerning what he wanted to create and how he created it makes no sense even to you. This discussion should end here.

Of course it can end. The bold makes perfect sense to me. God chose to evolve us. So quit bugging me

DAVID: You confuse easily. Biochemistry and new body forms are both part of the same evolutionary process.

dhw: Of course they are, but you said we use the same biochemical processes as bacteria, and then you said there were new biochemical processes. (I suggested that sex was the same exchange of genes, but through different methods which required new body forms.) It makes no difference to the general argument. If your God can produce brand new species with no precursors, why didn’t he produce us without all the rigmarole of umpteen precursors (see your latest posts on gaps), let alone all the species he created that had no connection with us?

I don't know why He chose to evolve us; He didn't tell me. You are repeating your same illogical objection because you do not understand those of us who accept God, just how we think about Him. What has appeared in history is God's created history. God evolved us from bacterial forms.


DAVID: Don't you realize God does what He wants to do. History tells you what He did.

dhw; Of course it does. If he exists, he created life. That does NOT mean he individually designed every single life form, or that his sole purpose was to design us.

But that is what God did. God created the illusion of Darwinian style evolution.


DAVID: You request that I understand God's choice to evolve us. I don't/can't know His thoughts. Your request is illogical in itself. If evolution happened, God did it is simple logic when one believes in God.
And under “Theodicy”:
DAVID: As always: Believing God exists, He created evolution. Since based on belief, what is illogical? Your answer has to be belief in God is illogical.

dhw: Same old dodge. Yes, we evolved. But my request is for answers to the two questions bolded above in my first response. All my alternatives to the theory which you cannot explain involve God, and this discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with belief in God! It is about your belief in a theory you can't explain.

My explanation is simple. God does what God wants to do and He evolved us from bacteria. Live with it and we can move on to other topics.


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