Let's study ID: giraffe plumbing: cognition (Introduction)

by dhw, Sunday, November 14, 2021, 11:01 (893 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: We humans are a very unusual and highly unlikely result if natural forces were at work. Therefore God intended to produce us.

dhw: But you say that all species, lifestyles and natural wonders are so special that your God must have designed them, including all those species and foods that had no connection with us and our foods, and including the weaverbird’s nest. Therefore, if he really did design them all, he intended to design them all. So back we go to the same question: if his ONLY intention was to design us, why did he design all the rest?

DAVID: What you always avoid is food supply for all. If we are here without the food bush, what do we eat?
And under “Balance of Nature”:
QUOTE:"Understanding how ecosystems respond to changes in large predator populations is vital to resolving broader debates about the structure of food webs, determining species abundance and delivering ecosystem services, said the authors. (David's bold)

DAVID: Note the bold. Food webs are vital to all living organisms. It is a fact dhw admits and then poopoos. The current huge human population was anticipated for by God and prepared for by the giant food bush appearing from all the branches of evolution designed by God.

I don’t poopoo the blindingly obvious fact that food webs are vital to all living organisms. I poopoo the illogical theory that your God’s only purpose was to design humans and our food and therefore he proceeded to design countless life forms, foods and econiches that had no connection with humans. You never cease to dodge this obvious illogicality and to contradict yourself on the subject of past “food webs”. Yet again, these are your wise words: “The current bush of food is NOW for humans NOW. There were smaller bushes in the PAST for PAST forms” and “Extinct life has no role in current time.”

DAVID: My theory is totally logical to me. Your objections are your problem in your weird approach to God. It is a belief-fact for me.

What is a belief-fact? This is your constant blockage – you simply cannot accept that your God individually designing every species is NOT a fact, and your God’s sole purpose being to design humans and their food is NOT a fact. The only fact in this discussion is that countless species have been and gone, and humans are the last species so far to have appeared.

DAVID: God must exist because of the complexity of biological designs.

A perfectly reasonable belief, as I have always acknowledged.

DAVID: Per Adler we are an unusual result of a possible natural process as Darwin described that we are an end point purpose for evolution conducted supernaturally by God.

This sentence doesn’t make sense. Yes, we are unique, but according to you, God designed every other life form, lifestyle and natural wonder as well. So…yet again…why would he have specially designed all those that had no connection with humans, plus food, if humans plus food were his only purpose? You have no idea, and I must ask God!