Let's study ID (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, August 21, 2021, 16:07 (972 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: The past created the future by God's designs. That is my firm belief, but not yours. So be it.

dhw: What do you mean by “the past created the future”? According to you, your God’s one and only purpose was to design (create) sapiens and his food, but he designed (created) countless life forms and foods in the past which had no connection with present sapiens and his food. Please stop this endless dodging.

I don't dodge like you do. Your repeated mantra objection above is completely illogical, and is totally based on your very humanized God as the only one you can accept. God created the appearance of common descent by making/designing each new stage from the previous.

DAVID: You distort God's goal as singular. Humans are/were the planned endpoint. In my view evolution has ended. The current bush is the final bush.

dhw: It is YOU who have constantly claimed that God’s goal is singular! And you claim that all life forms etc. were/are “part of the goal of evolving [= designing] humans” and their food. That is the nub of the whole endless dispute. How can they possibly have been part of that one goal if the vast majority of them had no connection with humans?

DAVID: Endless strange interpretation. You set goals and reach them. I set goals and reach them. So does God. All of us accomplish lots of necessary things/events along the way, all a continuous journey from start to finish. Only you wan to to chop it into segments so nothing is related. Strange.

dhw: More obfuscation. Since you now want to compare God’s pursuit of his goal(s) to our human pursuit (yippee for your “humanization”!), supposing I tell you that my one and only goal is to write a book about agnosticism and I then proceed to write twenty books about gardening, wouldn’t you find that “strange”? According to you, your God’s one and only goal was to design humans plus food, and so he proceeded to design countless forms of life and food that had no connection with humans plus food. Don’t you find that “strange”?

God has goals in that He knows what He wishes to produce. We are forced to make Him seem human because of the verbiage we are forced to employ in discussing Him. We in no sense ever try to humanize Him as you do.