Let's study ID (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, August 14, 2021, 21:15 (1195 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: How can your version of your God’s evolution be logical for you if you can’t explain why he would specially design countless life forms that have no connection with humans and their food, although his one and only purpose was to design humans and their food? What is “wild” about a God who experiments, or who has new ideas as he goes along, or who creates a free-for-all because he wants to create a free-for-all, or who watches his creation with interest and therefore may have designed his creation because he wanted something he could watch with interest?

DAVID: I've shown you God evolves His results. Do you deny that? Why He evolves instead of direct creations is His choice which I accept. I don't need His reasoning, only you do for your own strange logic.

dhw: According to you, evolution means that your God directly creates every species. And according to you, he evolved (directly created) every single one of them for the sole purpose of evolving (directly creating) humans and their food, although the vast majority had no connection with humans and their food. Please explain why you consider this logical.

I've boiled down this aspect of our discussion to end it once and for all from my viewpoint. I view God as an all-powerful creator. I view all we know about our reality as a direct result of His intentions for creation. I view Him as fully purposeful and never meandering from His goals. I cannot know (but I can guess if I wished to do so) why He chose the methods He chose to reach His intended goals. But it is obvious He evolves all stages from the BB to humans. Evolution gives the appearance of a natural common descent, but the extent of the required exquisite biochemical designs forces the conclusion God's designing mind created all species from bacteria to the endpoint, humans with consciousness. Since humans are in total control of the Earth, the only further evolution can only be confined to humans, if we allow it.

You can imagine all the dithering humanized Gods you wish to imagine, and I admit they fit the history of evolution in a general way generally from your God's standpoint. We see totally different Gods. As for your contrived boded query about past evolution, you are simply complaining about past real stages in earlier evolution. why you don't accept that view is really beyond my comprehension. Evolution is a single long process in time, 3.8 byo it seams With giant gaps, each stage leading to the next more complex stage. My position is quite clear and firm. I don't accept your puzzling over different God's personalities, but go on puzzling all you want..