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DAVID: You have reviewed all your imagined humanizing forms of God.
No point in repeating them here, but it’s worth reminding you of your agreement that ALL of them provide a logical explanation for the course of evolution, unlike your own imagined humanizing form of God.
DAVID: What is totally illogical is that you question God's logic in waiting 3.8 billion years from start of life to the appearance of humans.
You simply continue to dodge the issue by ignoring what you yourself find inexplicable in your own theory. Once again: no, I am not questioning the FACT that it took 3.8 billion years for humans to appear, whether God engineered it all or not. I am questioning YOUR logic in your theory (NOT a fact) that your all-powerful God’s one and only purpose was to design humans and their food, but he spent 3.8 billion years specially designing countless life forms and foods that had no connection with his one and only purpose of designing humans and their food. It is the logic of YOUR THEORY that I am questioning.
DAVID: In my view God creates the history and does it His way for His reasons. I cannot debate them, but just accept them, a vast difference from your approach, in which God should follow your human logic.
Of course if God exists he created the history and did it his way for his reasons. But what you “accept” is your own illogical theory of how and why he created the history we both accept. I have no idea why you think your human illogicality, as summarized above but continually distorted by you, must be the truth, whereas my human logicality (accepted by you) must be wrong.
DAVID: I have my logical truths and you have your imagination. Of course we won't agree and can stop this discussion.
dhw: Firstly, your imagined version of God is not a truth but a belief. Secondly, your imagined version of God leaves you with two totally illogical premises: he specially designs countless life forms that have no connection with his one and only purpose, and he is all-good but specially designs bad things.
DAVID: Same illogical questioning of God's history.
Same illogical assumption that your illogical view of God’s history is the only possible view.
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