Let's study ID (Introduction)

by dhw, Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 14:28 (969 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: I didn't impose a method on God. I think God created our known historical facts. Evolution occurred and humans appeared at the end. Conclusion: God wished to create Humans and did it by evolving them from bacteria. There is no false logic involved.

dhw: And you also have him evolving (which for you means specially designing) every other life form, econiche, natural wonder etc. in the history of life, so clearly according to the above, he must also have wished to create them as well as humans (and their food), but the vast majority of them had no connection with humans, and so the false logic is your claim that his only purpose was to create humans (and their food).

DAVID: Same dichotomy of thought. All the rest become the food that is necessary

dhw: The food that is necessary for WHAT? All life forms need food. How does that come to mean that all life forms were “part of the goal of evolving [= specially designing] humans” and their food?

DAVID: The bold is your illogical thought that runs in circles. Humans need lots of food that must be present now with our huge population.

But that does not explain why he specially designed countless PAST life forms and their foods if his only goal was to design the present us and our present foods. STOP DODGING!

DAVID: […] all that came before had to come before.

dhw: […] I am questioning your claim that the countless life forms and foods that had no connection with humans “had to come before” humans and their food. Why, if his one and only goal was to design humans and their food? You simply go on and on dodging the issue.

DAVID: Once again distorting my God into extreme tunnel-vision to sit your debating purposes which devolves into a totally illogical view of the necessary human food supply.

The extreme tunnel vision is yours, when you claim that all life forms “were part of the goal of evolving [= designing] humans” and their food supply. How can they all have been part of that goal if the vast majority had no connection with humans and their food supply? That’s four dodges (three of them “food”) in one post!