Let's study ID: giraffe plumbing: cognition (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Wednesday, November 03, 2021, 15:17 (905 days ago) @ dhw

Common design

DAVID: Accept it. A connected evolution process happened from bacteria to humans.

dhw: I am perfectly happy to accept it. It is you (see below) who firstly have cast doubt on it with your theory that your God designed new forms that had no precursors, and we humans are descended from them – and therefore not in a "connected" evolutionary process from bacteria. Secondly, of course, you continue to ignore the bolded questions concerning all the life forms and foods that had no connection with humans.

I've answered and you refuse to accept my answers. Your tortured view of the Cambrian form gap is laughable, and is answered previously.


dhw: Of course the argument against this is that we ARE descended from bacteria, and the Cambrian gap is not due to God popping in to start a brand new array of forms, but to a lack of fossils and/or the ability of intelligent cells to make major as well as minor jumps in response to changing conditions.

DAVID: The Edicaran and Cambrian layers are carefully explored in China: no form precursors!!!

dhw: No known precursors, possibly explained by lack of fossils and/or the ability of intelligent cells to make major jumps. Why do you ignore the point we are discussing? And see above for the implication of our descent from species with no known precursors.

Lack of fossils is a weak reed. Constant digging in china enhances the gap. Intelligent cells don't speciate is my view in all discussions.


DAVID: Faith in science finding answers is OK for me. I'll alter theory with new discoveries.

dhw: I don’t have a problem with science finding answers! I am simply pointing out that both you and Dawkins have come up with diametrically opposite, unproven conclusions, and you both dismiss any alternatives because your minds are closed.

I've viewed all alternatives and chosen what I think are reasonable.


Dopamine
DAVID: I don't care what Dawkins thinks. He is only worth ignoring.

dhw: He would say the same about you. Unscientific pots and kettles, the two of you.

DAVID: You do understand theories change as new findings indicate it?

dhw: Yes, I do. And that is why I find both of you equally blinkered, since you both adhere to unproven theories and sneer at each other for adhering to unproven theories.

My only difference with Dawkins is his atheism. And his selfish gene theories resulting in a weird view of evolution covered in my book


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