Let's study ID (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Saturday, September 04, 2021, 00:16 (50 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Same nutty argument. Why do you switch gears from your agreement above? Evolution from bacteria can only work in one way, one stage at a time, and food supply is necessary all along the way.

dhw: Correct, but that applies to EVERY LIFE FORM THAT EVER LIVED. And that leads to the bolded question above, which once more you attempt to dodge.

No dodge. Each population with each proper food supply at each stage finally leads to our stage. The dodge is we are discussing past each other. I think your complaint is totally irrational while I am convinced my interpretation fits history and makes perfect sense especially when our exceptionality is accepted.


DAVID: You are stuck with my theology: in my view God ran evolution by design, creating a pattern we interpret as common descent.

dhw: If God exists, then of course he designed the mechanisms for evolution. That does not mean he directly designed every life form plus food supply.

We differ on how design appears. I prefer direct hands-on while you propose God offering second-hand instructions making cells appear intelligent.


DAVID: And His purpose was to finally create us by that process.

Hence your claim that every life form was “part of the goal of evolving [=designing] humans” and their food. But that leaves the bolded question unanswered.

DAVID: It is my firm belief. That He prefers to create by evolving each stage is obvious. His only direct creations are the BB and starting life. The bold is a statement about evolution that denies my theology. You have every right to your opinion. You are not dodging and neither am I.

dhw: I am not denying evolution!!! I am asking one simple question concerning your interpretation of why and how your God “ran evolution”, and all you do is dodge that question. And so I will repeat it: why do you think your God specially designed all the life forms and food supplies that had no connection with humans if his one and only goal was to design humans?

Because He used the process of evolution by design of stages, creating the illusion of a natural common descent. Fits history.


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