Let's study ID (Introduction)

by dhw, Thursday, August 19, 2021, 11:44 (981 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Your tunnel view is unchanged. God's endpoint is humans, and all is connected by the concept of evolution in which simple leads to complexity in stages, which you separate as non-connected.

dhw: I'm not sure how my unanswered questions concerning the logic of your tunnel view can become my tunnel view! “All is connected” by the fact that all life forms descended from the first. But all life forms are not connected with one another, because life branched out into countless different forms, the vast majority of which, by your own admission, had no connection with humans and their food. It is therefore illogical to claim that all life forms were “part of the goal of evolving [by which you mean specially designing] humans” and their food. You have continued to dodge this issue for what seems like years

DAVID: Yes bushes branch off and we are the end point of a specific branch. However all branches are connected at the roots, the start of life.

Thank you for agreeing with my first bold.

DAVID: And all the branches are providing food for everyone in every branch.

Where do you get that from? Have you forgotten that the history of life comprises countless branches, most of which are extinct? Are you once more trying to twist language to show that every branch in life’s history provided food for humans? Please don’t even try.

DAVID: All life must have new energy so necessary food supply is present as God planned it. You just don't like God's planning for the huge present human population He saw coming.

How does planning food for all the life forms that had no connection with humans suddenly become planning food for humans? FOOD FOR THE PAST WAS FOR THE PAST, AND EXTINCT LIFE HAS NO ROLE IN CURRENT TIME. How often must I repeat your own statements? Please stop playing these silly games.

DAVID: Oh, I forgot, your God is not sure of where he is going so He experiments.

Experimenting is only one of my alternatives, but at least it explains why your God might have specially designed all the life forms and foods which you keep telling us were part of his one and only goal of designing humans although they had no connection with humans.