Let's study ID (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Thursday, August 12, 2021, 18:11 (72 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: What is totally illogical is that you question God's logic in waiting 3.8 billion years from start of life to the appearance of humans.

dhw: You simply continue to dodge the issue by ignoring what you yourself find inexplicable in your own theory. Once again: no, I am not questioning the FACT that it took 3.8 billion years for humans to appear, whether God engineered it all or not. I am questioning YOUR logic in your theory (NOT a fact) that your all-powerful God’s one and only purpose was to design humans and their food, but he spent 3.8 billion years specially designing countless life forms and foods that had no connection with his one and only purpose of designing humans and their food. It is the logic of YOUR THEORY that I am questioning.

What is totally illogical is your constant complaint: I put God in charge and look at the current result and Adler's analysis. You wander off and invent other reasons why God might have evolved us. I accept your reasons if one considers a very humanized God, unsure of Himself, experimenting, enjoying a free-f-or-all, and especially non-purposeful. My view of God is totally different and we cannot narrow the gap. My God is logical for me. I cannot reply to your imagination which runs wild as you try to imagine all sorts of Gods.


DAVID: I have my logical truths and you have your imagination. Of course we won't agree and can stop this discussion.

dhw: Firstly, your imagined version of God is not a truth but a belief. Secondly, your imagined version of God leaves you with two totally illogical premises: he specially designs countless life forms that have no connection with his one and only purpose, and he is all-good but specially designs bad things.

DAVID: Same illogical questioning of God's history.

dhw: Same illogical assumption that your illogical view of God’s history is the only possible view.

Your wild imagination continues. My belief is based upon the appearance of most unusual humans with consciousness, not by accident. We are unique, and you deny the most logical reason. We are here on purpose, by design..


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