Let's study ID: giraffe plumbing: cognition (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:06 (1104 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Omissions: God’s sole purpose was to design us and our food, but before designing us, he designed countless life forms that had no connection with us. You don’t know why. God had the power to design new life forms from scratch (with no precursors), but although we were his only purpose, he designed a whole collection of precursors for us. You don’t know why. But you believe your theory is logical.

DAVID: Still trying to confuse the issue are you? You want me to explain God's logic. We start knowing what God did since God created all history. We see the evolution of life from Archaea to us.

dhw: We see the evolution of life from Archaea to countless forms including us.

DAVID: We humans are a very unusual and highly unlikely result if natural forces were at work. Therefore God intended to produce us.

dhw: But you say that all species, lifestyles and natural wonders are so special that your God must have designed them, including all those species and foods that had no connection with us and our foods, and including the weaverbird’s nest. Therefore, if he really did design them all, he intended to design them all. So back we go to the same question: if his ONLY intention was to design us, why did he design all the rest?

What you always avoid is food supply for all. If we are here without the food bush, what do we eat?

DAVID: Why He chose the known historical method was His choice. It is God's right to chose His method. I cannot know His reasons. It is you who question His logic. I accept it. It is your problem for which I cannot offer help.

dhw: You cannot know why, if his only goal was to design us, he chose to specially design all the life forms etc. that had no connection with us. I seem to have said this before. So (a) maybe we were not his only goal, or (b) maybe he did not specially design all the other forms. I am not questioning his logic, but yours! You keep admitting that you cannot see the logic in your own theory, yet still you insist that it is a fact. It is not. The only facts we have are that all the different species existed/exist, and we are the latest to appear on the scene.

My theory is totally logical to me. Your objections are your problem in your weird approach to God. It is a belief-fact for me. God must exist because of the complexity of biological designs. Per Adler we are an unusual result of a possible natural process as Darwin described that we are an end point purpose for evolution conducted supernaturally by God..