David's theory of evolution: James A. Shapiro's view (Evolution)

by dhw, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 11:42 (1773 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: He produced a proper scientific presentation of a review at the Royal society without the stretched theory.

So, to repeat the comment you were answering, please provide evidence that his theory is confined to bacteria, that I have distorted his theory, and that he has changed his mind. And please explain how “Living Organisms Regularly Facilitate Their Own Evolution” can mean anything other than the proposal that the cell communities of which living organisms are composed facilitate their own evolution. That IS his theory, except that he doesn’t use the term “cell communities”!

Under "Nature’s Wonders":
DAVID: In thinking about evolution of a three-way symbiosis, it is much more difficult to imagine its evolution than a two-way. Design?

Every multicellular body is an example of multiple symbiosis, as different types of cell cooperate in a community of communities, with each one playing a unique role. You will no doubt argue that all of them were preprogrammed 3.8 billion years ago or God came down and dabbled them, as presumably you think he did with the sponge, the bacterium and the virus. Another possibility is that your God gave them the wherewithal to do their own designing in the process Shapiro calls “natural genetic engineering”.

Much of the remainder of your post is dedicated to Adler, and I will deal with anything relevant on the other thread, as this has nothing to do with Shapiro.