David's theory of evolution Part Two (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Thursday, November 21, 2019, 19:51 (20 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: […]you refuse to acknowledge that since your theory is not illogical “if we do not apply human reasoning to the facts of history”, that means your theory IS illogical if we apply human reasoning to the facts of history.

DAVID: The bolded above is an illogical twist of my conclusion of not trying to judge God's thinking and actions that history presents. I simply accept what God does.

dhw: There is no “judgement” – only your insistence on your belief that you know God’s thinking (“All I wanner do is design H. Sapiens”) and his actions (“I’m gonna wait 3.X billion years before I start doin’ it, and so I’m gonna design a few billion non-human life forms, econiches, lifestyles an’ natural wonders just to cover the time till I do the only thing I wanner do.”) I will once again provide your exact words if you want me to. The bolded statement above means precisely what it says: this theory is not illogical so long as you do not apply human reason.

DAVID: We will never solve the illogical conclusions you reach about my thinking. The entire statement in your parentheses is a distortion of my thinking about God. These are your thoughts about how God might think. I don't do that. I've simply assumed with God is charge, He chose to evolve humans over time, exactly as history states. My only positive statements about God's thoughts are He chose to evolve them over time, and they were His end goal. And there are strong positive philosophical points supporting the concept of a goal of humans (ADLER).

dhw: As usual, you have left out all the bits of your theory that make it illogical. The missing bits are that your God is always in control, and for 3.X billion years he specially designed billions of non-human life forms as “interim goals to establish the necessary food supply to cover the time he knew he had decided to take” before starting to “evolve humans over time” – although they were his one and only goal and you “have no idea why God chose to evolve humans over time”. These are the “positive thoughts” you impose on your God, exactly as I have reproduced them in my parentheses, and you admit that all these beliefs in combination are not illogicalif one does not apply human reasoning to the actual history”, which can only mean that they ARE illogical if one tries to apply human reasoning to the actual history.

Because you chop it up into bits and pieces it becomes illogical to you. God chose the WHOLE process of evolution to do His work. I don't ever try to apply human reason to what I see as God's works. He did what He did. You do not recognize this approach to my faith. Quote what I have written all you want. The above is my thought process.


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