David's theory of evolution Part Two (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Monday, December 23, 2019, 16:18 (97 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: It is obvious you have no idea of my thought patterns as I relate to the presence of God.

dhw: You believe that your all-powerful, all-knowing God designed life with the sole purpose of creating H. sapiens, but for some unknown reason he decided not to pursue this goal for 3.X billion years

I believe God chose to evolve us. Since God is in charge history tells us what He did.

dhw: This theory is only logical if, in your own words, “one does not apply human reasoning to the actual history”.

What I have constantly said is we cannot know the reasons behind God's choice of purpose.

dhw: You will claim that all of this is a distortion, but you will be unable to pinpoint a single detail that does not correspond to your “thought patterns”.

How about using my current words, not old quotes out of context?

dhw: You will also dismiss any logical theistic alternative to your own thought pattern on the grounds that it “humanizes” God, although you agree that your God “very well could think like us.”

Again my recent quote: God uses logic like us. All your God suppositions are obviously humanizing. God 'experiments' means He does not have full control.


dhw: Please pinpoint the distortions.

I have.


DAVID: You won't accept the concept that God decided to evolve us which easily explains our history.

dhw: The itty-bitty gradualism you attribute to God’s method of designing H. sapiens is precisely the mode of evolution you keep condemning.

The 8 million year steps to H. sapiens were not tiny as in 200 cc brain size jumps!!!!


DAVID: I repeat. Your distortion of my reasoning does not answer this statement: God reasons logically as we do, but we cannot know His reasoning behind why He chose purposely to evolve us over time. Only you worry about the time taken. Do you think God worried about it?

dhw: I do not “worry” about the time taken, which is a fact for those of us who believe in the theory of evolution, and there is no distortion. You admit that you cannot understand his “logic”, but that is because your theory is illogical (as you have admitted, though you keep trying to ignore your own admission), not because he thought and acted in the way you think he did. The actual history (the bush of life) is open to all kinds of interpretations, and you have admitted that the theistic alternatives I have offered are logical. But you simply refuse to consider them because you have formed the fixed belief that your illogical interpretation of the history and of your God’s thinking (summarized at the start of this post)) is correct.

And I will say again , the complexity of life logically requires a designer. Evolution proceeds only through design by a designer. Without a purposeful God behind all of history, one can begin to imagine all sorts of amorphous possibilities conjured up by humanized reasoning which all human brains do. All is logical if God is accepted.

(***DAVID (under “Cambrian explosion"): Some scientists may be doubtful, but logic tells us if eyes are present and limbs that must have moved are found, there was a nervous system to run the show. And this means, most significantly, a complete nervous system appeared with no precursors. Darwin's Cambrian gap strikes again!!)

Which Edicaran cell committees designed the Cambrian creatures?


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