David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, November 01, 2019, 17:42 (1847 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I've agreed human logic can invent your scenarios.

dhw:You have agreed that these particular scenarios provide a “humanly” logical explanation for the history of the bush of life if there is a God who created it, and that your God could well think in this manner. But you prefer your own explanation, which defies human logic.

DAVID: It doesn't defy human logic. […]

dhw: You force me to quote you. Referring to your theory: “Nothing illogical required if one does not apply human reasoning to the actual history.”

Not a refutation at all. All I've said is that I don't question His works, and don't study it logically, because that is not required if all one does is study the history of His works.

dhw: Please tell me which of these points is a distortion:
1) You believe that your God specially designed every single new life form, lifestyle and natural wonder in the history of life.
2) His one and only purpose was to design H. sapiens.
3) He decided to delay fulfilling that purpose for 3.X billion years and therefore had to design the whole preceding bush of life in order to cover the time he had decided to take.
4) You have no idea why he decided to delay fulfilling his purpose for 3.X billion years.

DAVID: Usual distortions. It is obvious He chose to evolve us.

dhw: Your comment does not tell us which of these points is a distortion. Reminder: according to you, all the preceding life forms, econiches etc. were “interim goals to establish the necessary food supply to cover the time he knew he had decided to take” (i.e. before “evolving” H. sapiens, his sole purpose).

One, two and three are my beliefs. Number four is your distorted description of his decision to evolve us, which is simply God chose to evolve us over the time it took, with no worry on His part over your so-called delay. You silly distortion implies He should have created us directly, if He could, something we can not know if He can or wanted to do.

dhw: 5) Your explanation is perfectly logical, so long as we do not apply our human logic to the actual history of life.

DAVID: Same Distortion. I don't try to apply logic. I simply accept what He did as history shows us.

dhw: See the bolded quote above re logic. History shows us that there has been a a vast bush of life forms extinct and extant. History does not show us any of points 1-3, and you yourself have provided points 4-5.

My proof of 'one' is the complexity of the designs, which you recognize but cannot explain except by your pipe-dreams of cellular intelligence. "Two" is Adler's book of logical reasons. I've answered 'three' above regarding the issue of direct creation