David's theory of evolution Part Two (Evolution)

by dhw, Sunday, November 24, 2019, 13:36 (305 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: As usual, you have left out all the bits of your theory that make it illogical. The missing bits are that your God is always in control, and for 3.X billion years he specially designed billions of non-human life forms as “interim goals to establish the necessary food supply to cover the time he knew he had decided to take” before starting to “evolve humans over time” – although they were his one and only goal and you “have no idea why God chose to evolve humans over time”. These are the “positive thoughts” you impose on your God, exactly as I have reproduced them in my parentheses, and you admit that all these beliefs in combination are not illogical “if one does not apply human reasoning to the actual history”, which can only mean that they ARE illogical if one tries to apply human reasoning to the actual history.[…]

DAVID: There again is your weird twist of my thoughts. I view nothing I think about God as illogical.

dhw: So why do you say that the above theory is not illogical “if one does not apply human reasoning to the actual history”?

DAVID: I don't try 'reasoning' what God might have thought in making His choice to evolve human over the time we know it took. You are the one who tries to look into His thought process. The only true reasoning I have done is conclude, with Adler, humans were His goal.

So your message is that if your theory cannot be applied to the actual history of life, we mustn’t try to understand it. And if anyone offers an alternative theory which can be applied to the actual history, presumably we should ignore it because it's humanly logical. Not the most edifying approach to any issue!

DAVID: Once again we cannot apply human reasoning to what God has done. My reasoning has lead me to accept God as the prime mover and humans were His goal, without delving into His reasoning.

Perfectly acceptable premises until you combine them with the following comment:
DAVID: Of course there were intermediate goals like using the bush of life to set up necessary econiches.

Necessary for what? If he was in total charge and his one and only goal was to design humans, why did he need to specially design 3.X billion years’ worth of non-human econiches? You have no idea, you agree that this theory is illogical by human standards, and so I mustn’t ask such questions.

DAVID: As I apply my reasoning to the process of evolution, I have concluded reasonably that God must be in charge. The designs in the biochemistry of life require the mind of a designer.

No problem with the logic of either statement. Once again, it is the combination of your fixed beliefs which defies all human reason.

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