Natures wonders: ants and other insects farm (Introduction)

by David Turell , Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 16:08 (1639 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: You can ask. I've answered many times. He had to evolve this universe as He evolved everything subsequent, to produce this exact galaxy, which grew by eating many small galaxies so this one could be large enough to tuck our special Earth far enough out to be safe.

dhw: So how does that explain the billions of long gone galaxies and solar systems which he “evolved” (= specially designed in your vocabulary) for the sole purpose of producing ours for the sole purpose of producing Earth for the sole purpose of producing H. sapiens?

The evolution of the universe took time. No galaxies are 'gone'. Our Milk Way is big because we ate others to get this big as above. You don't understand making the Earth 'safe', but I've explained it many tines.

DAVID (referring to experimentation and/or new ideas): The bold is a humanized god plodding along, not sure of where he is headed. NOT MY GOD!!! I don't know God's reasons for this method and, guess what, I don't care! As for His reasoning capacity He is logical like we are, but I know nothing more of His thinking.

dhw: It is not the reason for using the method of evolution that is in dispute! The dispute, yet again, is over the COMBINATION of your three rigid beliefs concerning God’s nature (all-powerful, all-controlling), purpose (only to create H. sapiens, which he could have done any way he liked) and method of achieving that purpose (directly designing millions of extinct non-human life forms, lifestyles, natural wonders etc. before directly designing the only thing he wanted to design). If, as you suppose, he is logical like we are, the illogicality of this combination of beliefs can only mean that one or other or all of them are wrong.

It is you who are totally illogical. God has the right to chose any method of production He wishes. He chose evolution from bacteria to us. He is not impatient as you imply He should be.

Under “brain expansion”:

dhw: Back we go to your theory of evolution and your three rigid and irreconcilable beliefs: (1) all-knowing, all-powerful God, 2) only purpose H. sapiens, 3) designs millions of non-human life forms, natural wonders etc. before designing only species he wants to design.[/b]

DAVID: Not irreconcilable to me. God chose to evolve from bacteria and you've stated He could chose that approach, so what is your problem? Obviously you don't like His choice.

dhw: None of this is a problem. As above, now for the fourth time in this post, the problem is that according to you he chose to directly design millions of non-human life forms etc. before directly designing the only thing he wanted to design. Why do you keep skipping the whole subject of our disagreement?

I never skip it over. You don't like my answers. I won't repeat the same answer as above, but will add the usual: I don't know His reasoning for choosing this method of action, and I don't care. We are here.