Natures wonders: bat and moth sonar jamming (Introduction)

by dhw, Thursday, June 16, 2016, 13:29 (3080 days ago) @ David Turell

David's comment: This study shows the development of complexity through evolution. Still doesn't tell us how this is accomplished by the genome.-dhw:Thank you for another lovely post. Once again, this shows the development of useful abilities through evolution. You may feel your God preprogrammed a multiple choice of sound signals 3.8 billion years ago, or showed the moths how to do it, presumably after giving the bats a moth-eating programme as well, or dabbling to make sure they did/didn't eat the moths…oh, it's all so confusing. I would suggest the moths developed their own sound programme without on-board multiple choice questions or divine dabbling: just intelligent cell communities recognizing a threat and finding a way to combat it. But whaddoIknow?-DAVID: You don't know and neither do I, but I recognize the need for a planning mind and you don't. That gulf will never narrow.-As usual, you conflate two planning minds. One is the planning minds of organisms themselves, which you refuse to consider as an alternative to divine preprogramming and/or dabbling. That is the substance of our entire discussion on how evolution works, and that is the gulf between us. At all times I have allowed for the possibility of a planning mind creating the planning minds of the organisms, and as an agnostic I remain open-minded on that question.