Natures wonders: ant rafts and towers (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 10:03 (2675 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: I think Tony's point is God did not give cells supreme design intelligence ability to jump the fossil gaps in design of new animal forms. That is a form of God-lite which doesn't compute. I've commented in the past that your thinking seems to still be very influenced by your original readings of Origins, so some of your very stretched theories smell like Darwin-lite, rather than understanding current biological complexity such as research is showing us. That is where Tony's 'psychological argument' comes from. Perhaps Tony will confirm. The complexity is a very compelling argument for God.

I am indeed influenced by Darwin’s theory of common descent but I reject his random mutations and gradualism, and my hypothesis (theistic version) is that your God may have given cells the intelligence to produce saltatory innovations, which I regard as being a less stretched theory than your God preprogramming or dabbling every innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder for the sake of producing humans. I am fully aware of biological complexity (please believe me, I am not THAT stupid or ignorant) and I keep repeating that this complexity is a major reason why I cannot embrace atheism. There are very different reasons why I cannot embrace theism either. But I’ll look forward to Tony’s clarification of the point he is trying to make.