Natures wonders: seabirds, ants and viruses (Introduction)

by David Turell , Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:16 (1673 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: We must think of God as a person in an allegorical way. It is obvious to me you have no idea how much you think of God in humanizing terms. As for my 'unequivocal statements' of course I made them without regret. But from the standpoint that God is a personage like no other person, while from your humanizing view, you delight in thinking you have caught me humanizing Him myself. He thinks as we do in His own analogical way, never really like us. As for desiring to create humans, it is beyond questioning for those of us who believe.

dhw: I don’t have a problem with his desire to create humans. I have even offered you two explanations of evolution that fit in with that desire. You cannot possibly know how God thinks, so do please stop pretending that he can’t think like us or “really” like us, whatever that means. And please remember that I offer various alternative explanations of evolution, the logic of which you keep accepting. You cannot reject them just because they are humanly logical and “currently” you think your God cannot think in humanly logical terms, even though at other times you think he can.

Of course we use human terms in analyzing God. They are the only terms we have. My statements above apply, following what I have been taught.

dhw: My point was to show how close you are coming to the concept of your God creating a spectacle for himself to watch with interest:

DAVID: An other humanizing comment: Spectacles are for amusement and entertainment. That doesn't matter to my concept pf God.

dhw: I didn’t use those words – I used the words you yourself have used before: “with interest”. However, your concept of God is that he is all-purposeful. And you believe H. sapiens was his purpose for creating life. So what do you think was his purpose in creating H. sapiens?

I really don't know, but I can repeat the usual human-thought possibilities we've covered in the past.

DAVID: All depends on your clear view of God.

dhw: Nobody has a clear view of God, who may not even exist, but I’m pleased to see how very close you are coming to accepting the idea of a God who watches with interest a spectacle he created for himself to watch with interest.

DAVID: Glad you are pleased, but you are not discussing my real view of God.

dhw: You have told us several times that you are sure he is watching us (also “with interest”). If that is not your “real” view, please tell us what is.

Of course He may watch with interest. Since He created us that is certainly logical.