Natures wonders: killer penguins hunt in packs (Introduction)

by dhw, Thursday, October 05, 2017, 13:34 (2604 days ago) @ David Turell

Dhw: If you believe that organisms with brains have souls like ours which survive the death of the brain, do you or do you not believe that the brain provides them with information and implements their decisions but is NOT responsible for the thought processes that determine their actions? If you believe their thought processes take place in the soul and not the brain, am I right in thinking you believe conscious intelligence (the soul) to be a part of your God’s own conscious intelligence?

DAVID: I think you are back to contorting how I view the brain working. The brain is a computer mechanism with soul/consciousness we are given as the software. We use our brains to develop information, since we have none at birth. We use our s/c to begin to interpret that incoming info as we develop our individual approaches and ego defense mechanisms to life's problems and challenges. We are part of God's consciousness. We control our thoughts through control over the s/c. Amazingly the brain responds to our style of use to make that use as easy as possible. We differ from animals only by a very large degree. I watched my dog develop from a confused puppy to an integrated member of the family who fully understands his role here. He has taught himself in the same way I described for humans.

The contortion is your own, because you have reverted to separating “we” from our “soul”. Otherwise you have simply repeated what I have said. If the soul survives the death of the brain, the soul is “we”. The brain provides the information, and “we”/the soul process/develop/interpret it, whether the soul is human or doggy. However, hidden in your statement are two important points:

1) “We differ from animals only by a very large degree.” Agreed. Degree, not kind.
2) “We are part of God’s consciousness.” In that case, since according to you the brain is NOT the source of consciousness, there is no reason to assume that the consciousness of bacteria is not also part of your God’s consciousness. They gather their information by brainless means, but the processing is done by their God-given soul. If, however, materialists are right and there is no such thing as a soul, bacterial processing and our own are both done chemically. In both cases, there is consciousness (as you have now agreed), and humans differ from all other life forms only by a very large degree.