Natures wonders: Subsea Microorganisms Long Life (Introduction)

by dhw, Saturday, August 25, 2018, 10:58 (393 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: If local conditions change, one would expect organisms in that locality to change as well. I would not expect pre-whale Willy to dive into the water and live while pre-whale Wendy lay on the shore and died. Would you?

DAVID: That assumes more than one entered the water.and mated when modifications happened. But there are no modifications in small amounts, only giant changes each stage!

Of course more than one would have entered the water! If conditions demanded change or offered improvements, the whole community would enter the water. And giant changes are the unsolved mystery, which you suggest is solved by a 3.8-billion-year-old computer programme for every innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder in life’s history, or by your God getting all the pre-whales to lie on the shore while he turns their legs into fins, and then presumably diving into the water himself to make additional changes he never thought of in the first place.

DAVID: As for climate, we have a definite example of how God might have changed environmental conditions and alter evolution in Chixculub.

dhw: A definite example of “might have”. Your theory has innovations planned beforehand, which means your God foresaw every related environmental change, local and global. So did he have a crystal ball, or did he manipulate every change?

DAVID: You keep asking God questions with no known answer. I gave you a possible example.

I’m not asking God, I’m asking you. And you keep asking me questions with no known answer, such as how giant changes took place. I give you a theoretical answer.

DAVID: Since He has purpose in His complex designs, He also has the foresight to make good designs, which only a planning brain can do.

If he exists, I’m sure he has purpose in his complex designs, and I’m sure he has foresight and a planning brain. That doesn’t mean he has to follow the preprogramming/dabbling routine you have designed for him (as above), which demands either prior knowledge or personal manipulation of every environmental change that is accompanied by speciation.

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