Natures wonders: wasps and zombie spiders (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, August 12, 2015, 18:38 (3142 days ago) @ BBella

Dhw: The problem with godlike beings is that instead of asking how we got here, we find ourselves asking how they got here (or there). It just puts the question of origins back one step. 
BBELLA: I agree it does put the question of origins back a step or two, but it could be one answer as to why many species (including our own) suddenly showed up on earth throughout earth's history. I believe in the possibility, as I've said before here, there are much older species more technologically advanced than us, who could have brought different species here at different times.-One wonders why they would all have come, left some animals, and then gone away again. As for theories that we ourselves are descendants of species that came from elsewhere in the universe, if they were advanced enough to get here, one can't help wondering why the technology was lost and had to be reinvented. But there are usually answers to such questions, and I haven't delved.-Dhw: [...]Consciousness would therefore exist not as a single universal unit but as countless individual units which themselves, through matter, create more units. Evolution results in different forms of consciousness, and these may be able to communicate not only with their own kind but also with other forms.
BBELLA: Your above scenario, dhw, is very close to how I see the All That Is (creation itself), with possibly one exception - the "may be able to communicate". I believe all things definitely do communicate - through vibration which is the universal connection between all things as Sheldrake has brought to light with his findings. This universal connection could be called a universal consciousness in a similar way creation could be called God. -I can't say I actually believe that all things communicate, perhaps because my mind is far too limited to reach out so far beyond itself, but the idea is appealing. Where we run into trouble is with terminology. Once we talk in terms of a universal consciousness and God, we drag in all kinds of associations, not least that of a conscious being which has deliberately created us (a concept you yourself disapprove of, as you repeat below).
 
BBELLA: No. I don't believe a first or special person or being programmed everything at the beginning of creation to be what it is now. As I see it, all activity within creation, on any and every level, is always at work within the moment, being what it is, reacting to it's present stimuli of vibration within and without affecting all that is.-Thank you for this, which seems to me to fit in very well with the constantly changing history of life, as it develops through the needs and actions of individual organisms in cooperation or in conflict with one another and with an ever changing environment. Again my mind is too limited to envisage the connections on a cosmic scale, beyond the obvious ones that relate to our dependence on our solar system, but the concept makes perfect sense in the context of life on Earth, as well as with many “mystic” experiences that I think should be taken seriously.


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