A Sense of Free Will: the consciousness quagmire (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, November 14, 2015, 05:44 (3297 days ago) @ romansh

wiki ... all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes external to the will. 
> > David That is not my belief at all!
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> Romansh: If you think this part of the wiki quote is false then I don't think you can call yourself a compatibilist.-I don't define myself. I simply have my own beliefs, whatever they might be called. I'm probably a 'lumper', not a 'splitter' like you are:->Romansh previously:-> You think determinism is true yet you think it is somehow irrelevant to free will?-> Definition: the doctrine that all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes external to the will. Some philosophers have taken determinism to imply that individual human beings have no free will and cannot be held morally responsible for their actions. (Wiki)-That is not my belief at all! Nor am I a compatibilist:-Compatibilism is the belief that free will and determinism are compatible ideas, and that it is possible to believe both without being logically inconsistent. Compatibilists believe freedom can be present or absent in situations for reasons that have nothing to do with metaphysics. (Wiki)-I don't worry about such things. I know I have free will. I know I am the result of all the factors and processes making the universe. You may call it freedom of choice. It is all the same to me. But the above definition sounds sort of like me.