A Sense of Free Will: the consciousness quagmire (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, September 06, 2015, 20:33 (3366 days ago) @ romansh

Computers in Penrose's and my position will never be conscious. Bacteria do not have intelligence, but operate from intelligent information.
 
> Romansh;
The good news is that you and Penrose will never be able to provide evidence for your position. 
> 
> I can claim a computer is not conscious, what evidence can I bring to bear for this position?-What can be proven either way, unless a computer suddenly produces something which was not initiated by a software program?
> 
> > Romansh: I don't think your questions have a 'subliminal quality'. Theoretically this is a stretch.
> I never claimed I have David.-You proposed that in your answer to dhw, or I can't read.-> > > David: My answer is m controlling my brain's thoughts.-> Romansh: I presume you meant "I'm". What exactly is this "I"?-No, it should read 'my controlling' but its the same meaning. My answer is my sense of self. which for me works to manage my life. Again we are back to my consciousness.

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