A Sense of Free Will: the consciousness quagmire (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, September 06, 2015, 18:50 (3366 days ago) @ romansh


> > David: We have elaborated at length before. Of course my decisions are based on previous experience and current events. What are you hunting for?-> Romansh: Some recognition that our thoughts/decisions or wills are not free.-I don't accept that position.
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> Romansh: I will ask my question again:
> >>.... not to control our thoughts or actions.
> > Independent processes? Which processes are these?> 
> Exactly in what narrow sense are these processes independent?-I don't know how much clearer I can be. The brain has helpful processes (which you have mentioned) that allow us to use a biological machine to understand reality. we do not control these processes, but they do not act to form our opinions, thoughts and actions.
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> Romansh: In what sense are our thoughts/wills independent?-Because I create them, they are mine independently. I equate free will and intentionality.
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> dhw: Do you actually think our eye movements are independent of cause?-No, they are caused by the brain as built-in mechanisms to help us see reality properly. The brain is not a digital camera. What caused the brain to develop this ability is the underlying discussion of this website.