dhw: big brain evolution:comparing chimp and brain organoids (Evolution)

by dhw, Saturday, April 20, 2019, 10:35 (153 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: If organisms have the free ability to evolve whatever they wants, who knows what might have developed and how could have any purposeful result? Evolution with purpose means evolving towards a living goal of a specific organism.
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You raised the subject of purpose, and I have offered you various alternative proposals, but my question remains why, if his one and only purpose was to specially design H. sapiens, he specially designed billions of other econiches, lifestyles, natural wonders, and life forms to eat or not eat one another before specially designing the only life form he wanted to design. You responded:

DAVID: […] I fully understand what happened and God and I are fully logical in my construct. You simply do not understand or are confused. I never have been.

Friday 28 February at 16.05:
DAVID: Haven't you realized by now, I have no idea why God chose to evolve humans over time.

dhw: I’m sorry, but if you have no idea why your God might have chosen your interpretation of his method in order to achieve your interpretation of his goal, I don’t know how you can claim to “fully understand” what happened, and I would still suggest that your incomprehension may indicate that one or both of your interpretations may be flawed.

DAVID: Another irrational complaint. I accept the actual history of what occurred as representing God's choice. I don't read his mind even if you think I should and you think you might be able to. My 'understanding' is that God chose the way to get there.

If God exists, I also accept the actual history of what occurred as representing his choice, and that evolution was the way he chose to get “there”. The question is what he chose and where he wanted to get! You have no idea why he would have chosen to specially design billions of non-human life forms and styles and natural wonders before specially designing the only form you think he wanted to design, but you claim to “fully understand it”, and you regard my objection as “irrational”.


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