dhw:Big brain evolution: comparing chimp and brain organoids (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Sunday, March 10, 2019, 18:53 (163 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Again you question why God waited and evolved life in stages. I can only answer it was His choice. And therefore a big bush of life to supply food for all stages. Totally logical.


dhw: I am not questioning why your God evolved LIFE in stages. I am questioning why, if your God’s only aim was to produce the brain of H. sapiens, he produced anything but that brain for billions of years until 300,000 years ago. Totally illogical.

That is simple human logic. I don't know why God made His choice, but that is what I have to accept. We've already tried out all the possible reasons. WE can't prove any of them. It is your problem, not mine.


DAVID: Of course the bush was His decision.

dhw: So maybe he set out with the purpose of creating a bush, and not with the purpose of “slowly evolving the human brain”.

You are back with another guess.


DAVID: You try to present a picture of God running helter-skelter in all directions at once until He got His act together and got to the point of popping in our advanced brains.

dhw: That is YOUR hypothesis! You have him designing millions of life forms etc. extant and extinct (helter-skelter in all directions) until he specially designed the only thing he wanted to design (got his act together).

DAVID: Not helter-skelter but obviously as food supply.

dhw: And God said: “I am in full control and I do desire to produce nothing but the brain of H. sapiens, and therefore I will specially produce millions of different non-sapiens life forms to eat or not eat one another, and to come and go, until I decide to specially produce the brain of H. sapiens.” And you think this is “totally logical”.

It doesn't fit your human logic. So?


dhw: I do not accept your inexplicable (and hence unreasonable) version of his combined purpose and method, and that is why I offer theistic alternatives which you recognize as being logical and reasonable, but regard as unacceptable because I am agnostic and because they contradict your fixed beliefs.

DAVID: I have my fixed beliefs which I have logically explained to my satisfaction. Observers can decide for themselves who is closer to the truth, which we cannot fully ascertain.

dhw: On Friday 1 March 2019, you wrote: “Haven’t you realized by now, I have no idea why God chose to evolve humans over time.” Now all of a sudden you have logically explained it to your satisfaction. Do please share the secret with us.

My honest answer to your question is above as you quote. I do not, and cannot, know. It is logically explained to those of us who have accepted God that He is in change and has the right to choose a method. You have agreed to that in the past.


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