dhw:Big brain evolution: comparing chimp and brain organoids (Evolution)

by David Turell , Saturday, March 02, 2019, 17:17 (2091 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I don't have to try to explain something which is God's choice. We will have no way of knowing what option is correct!

dhw;There are different options concerning your God’s purpose and his choice of methods to achieve that purpose. YOUR choice of these options is so illogical that you have no idea why he chose the one option you impose on him (to specially design humans over thousands of millions of years, while specially designing anything but humans). So I would suggest that other options, which you agree are perfectly logical, must have at least an equal chance of being correct.

I know you say you cannot follow my logic, but if we start with the premise that the current result of evolution is according to Adler a difference in kind, that makes us special and can easily seen s God's goal. It is just a difference in a starting point of view.

DAVID: Haven't you realized by now, I have no idea why God chose to evolve humans over time. I've politely offered some logical possibilities at your urging to delve into it, but practically we both know the truth of God's thoughts will remain hidden. I accept the pattern of history as God's choice.

dhw: Your interpretation of the pattern of history is inexplicable to you, but you accept your interpretation and reject any other. I am the one who has offered alternative logical possibilities which you have politely accepted, though also in one case volunteering the information that you are sure your God watches his creations with the same enjoyment as a painter looking at his paintings. You do not “accept” the pattern – you have created it, and you reject any other possible pattern.

DAVID: I volunteered a possibility because you asked me to try out something. Note my reluctance to guess, because that is all those possibilities are, guesses. I know humans are here. God evolved them. I repeat, I don't care to try to explain God's choice of methods.

dhw: Of course all the options are guesses, since we have no way of knowing the facts. But you have a fixed belief in the only one of those options which you yourself find inexplicable, and so it's quite understandable that you don’t care to try to explain something you find inexplicable.

You can not explain God's methods either. We've covered all the possibilities, and there no conclusions, just guesses, angels on the heads of pins.