dhw: big brain evolution:comparing chimp and brain organoids (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Thursday, April 04, 2019, 15:23 (565 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Whether it is God's free choice or a forced choice makes no difference. The history is how He did it.

dhw: You continue to miss the point. If your God exists, the history consists only in the fact that all the life forms exist/existed, and humans came late on the scene. It is NOT history that humans were his only purpose, and it is NOT history that he specially preprogrammed or dabbled every life form, and it is NOT history that he did so because that was the only way he could fulfil his only purpose! That is YOUR inexplicable combination of guesses.

I'm allowed my interpretation as much as you have your diffuse group of them.

DAVID: I've admitted your hypothesis have alternate logical bases, but I have the right to choose the one I think is more correct.

dhw: Of course. So what have you now chosen? That God was limited and ignorant of the future, and that is why he could not specially design the only thing he wanted to design? Or he was all-powerful and omniscient, but chose not to design the only thing he wanted to design, and you don’t know why?

DAVID: We've covered all the possible reasons for God's actions. I have a right to choose one, while you have the right to sit atop your indecisive fence.

dhw: So do please tell us which of the above reasons for the 3.5+ billion years of non-humans you have chosen: a limited God who couldn’t do what he wanted to do, or an all-powerful one who could do what he wanted to do and you don’t know why he didn’t? Or do you prefer to sit atop my indecisive fence?

Logic: it is proposed God is in charge of creation. Therefore what is seen in history is a result of His actions. We cannot tell if God can directly create or must evolve living forms. Evidence tells us it appears He created the universe in one instant and then evolved its form to its present state. Our special Earth was also evolved over time. We cannot know if His choice of methodology to evolve, as above, is due to limits or is pure choice. To answer your unanswerable question simply, under the proposition the demanded answer doesn't matter. Evolution means change to something different. In our case, life evolved from simple forms to the most complex organ every created, the human brain, and the human form which can perform actions not capable of by any other animal. If evolution has directionality, and it does, what is present now must be interpreted as goals of its director, God.

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