dhw: big brain evolution:comparing chimp and brain organoids (Evolution)

by dhw, Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:31 (236 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: You simply refuse to recognize that it is the COMBINATION of your hypotheses that doesn’t make sense. Instead you separate them, and each one on its own is logical. Yes, your God may be all-powerful. Yes, if he exists, of course he chose evolution as his method to achieve his goals (though you keep insisting there was only one: H. sapiens. What do you think were his other goals?) Yes, the human mind is special. Why in this summary have you left out your hypothesis that he specially designed every innovation, econiche, lifestyle and natural wonder in the history of life? THAT is the issue you continually sidestep: not why he chose evolution as a method, but why until 300,000 years ago he chose to design anything but the one thing he wanted to design.You use the same dodge in our next exchange, which we needn’t repeat.(Newly bolded by dhw)

DAVID: It is not a dodge. Evolution implies using time to create. It took until 300,000 years ago to reach the point He wanted. The rest is still food supply to get there. And you are skipping the importance of Adler's analysis.

I have acknowledged that the human mind is special. Evolution has gone on for 3.8 billion years, so of course it takes time. That does not explain why an all-powerful God with a single purpose decided to create billions of other life forms, econiches, lifestyles and natural wonders so that organisms could eat or not eat one another until in his all-powerfulness he specially designed the only thing he wanted to design. You can’t explain it. Please tell me Adler’s explanation. If Adler doesn’t explain it, then there is no point in referring to Adler as if he does.

dhw: You force me to repeat alternative theistic interpretations of life’s “real history”: maybe your God had other goals, maybe he’s not all-powerful, maybe he was experimenting, maybe he did not specially design every life form, econiche etc., maybe he didn’t want to be “fully in charge”, maybe he wanted an evolutionary free-for-all. […]

DAVID: Stop telling me what to think. It makes perfect sense. God's choice is God's choice. There is no other interpretation except your constant struggling to read God's mind in a humanizing way.

Of course God’s choice is God’s choice, but your interpretation of his choice and method is inexplicable even to you, and so I am not telling you what to think, but I am offering you different alternatives for consideration. Identifying God’s purpose and choice of method entails attempting to read God’s mind. Why do you think your own inexplicable reading of his mind is the only true one, when you have acknowledged that all the other interpretations of purpose and method I have offered fit in logically with the “real history” of life?


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