Biological complexity: how the cell proteasome works (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Tuesday, May 09, 2017, 18:18 (2755 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I'm sorry, but I cannot imagine any intelligence existing in the formation of the original rocky Earth that was created 4.5 billion years ago. The only intelligence we see is from the formation of very many complex organic molecules which then become alive through the coordination of their functions. That miracle is due to God's actions. I view anything less as impossible.

dhw: I cannot imagine intelligent chemicals either, and that is why I do not believe or disbelieve in my panpsychist hypothesis. On the other hand, I cannot imagine a sourceless, individual, eternally conscious mind, a “person like no other person”, creating and encompassing and occupying ALL THAT IS, and that is why I do not believe or disbelieve in your “God” hypothesis. You wrote on this thread: “The ‘who’ is to get around the discussion of imagining God.” You can’t imagine my bottom-up panpsychist hypothesis and so you disbelieve it. And you would prefer to get round the problem of imagining your God hypothesis because you believe it.

Because I believe only a planning mind can produce our life-allowing universe, our life, and our consciousness.


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