Biological complexity: protozoa sans mitochondria (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, May 29, 2016, 15:17 (3100 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: I would suggest that apes, like other organisms, want to live, to eat, to avoid pain, just as Mickey wants the banana, but I would go further and suggest that nest-building, use of tools, development of strategies are all evidence of conceptual thinking arising from the desire for (= “wanting”) improvement. This may extend to exploring the potential of new environmental conditions.-IMHO you attribute far too much conceptual thought to animals. But that is your prerogative. -> DAVID: Well, I've said I am looking at expanding my concept of complexification, and your point is helping. Complexification just for the sake of it does explain the weird bush of life.
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> dhw: So does targeted complexification. But my emphasis all along has been on the autonomy of the mechanism, and “complexification” versus “survival/improvement” is peripheral. ...The inventiveness of the mechanism requires intelligence. And so, if you are expanding your concept of complexification, perhaps you could expand it to the point at which your God has endowed organisms with the intelligence to do their own inventing.-It is just that possibility I'm exploring, keeping in mind God is guiding