Cellular intelligence (Evolution)

by dhw, Sunday, March 27, 2022, 08:58 (761 days ago) @ David Turell

How cells communicate

DAVID: You are mixing how we respond scientifically with how innate immunity works. Lots of times our onboard stuff works just fine immediately. Covid is the kind that takes our scientific intervention with our God-given brains.

dhw: I have no doubt that lots of times infections are recognized and immediately dealt with, because they have been dealt with in the past and the remedies are already present. The problems arise with NEW dangers and the need for NEW means of eliminating them. Then it turns out that what you call your God’s “instructions” don’t work.

DAVID: God's immune systems works perfectly, but some bugs (covid) are tough to beat. Be reasonable in your views. God is not ALL BAD.

How can you say it works perfectly when millions of people die because the immune system cannot cope with your God’s specially designed bugs? This does not mean God is ALL BAD! It means that there is a problem for people who think he is all good (theodicy). Your solution to the problem appears to be to pretend that there is no problem. Is that what your books have taught you?

DAVID: […] So stop sneering at the immune system God provided. Our God-given brains can use God's immune mechanism system producing useful antibodies and boost its effectiveness.

dhw: I am not sneering at the system. I am asking why you think your God designed a system that created such suffering in the first place. But I do sneer at your theory that your all-powerful, kind God would try but fail to provide protection against “bad” viruses, and would have to rely on humans to achieve what he failed to achieve. I would find it far more convincing if he endowed cells with the intelligence to work out their own cures, but THEY sometimes fail, as opposed to him failing.

DAVID: Surprise, God did provide a great systems of immune reactions! As the article shows.

Surprise: great though that system undoubtedly is, the fact remains (a) that despite your God being all-knowing and all-powerful, it doesn’t always work, and (b) that your kind God created all those nasty bugs in the first place.