Cellular intelligence (Evolution)

by David Turell , Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:12 (1015 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: I was not aware that ID-ers now represented the norm in the scientific world. In any case, cellular intelligence and ID are not incompatible.

DAVID: Many Ph.D. folks are in the ID corps. They all accept so-called cell intelligence is from God's design.

dhw: What a revelation! After your claim that your rejection of the theory is the norm, apparently even ID-ers accept it! And of course they recognize that it’s compatible with belief in a designer. Thank you for this honest admission, which makes your dismissal of the theory even more blinkered.

DAVID: ID hides God, but He is understood to be the designer. Cells automatically follow instructions in the information in the genome.

dhw: You have just told us that ID-ers accept cellular intelligence designed by God, and now you tell us that cells are not intelligent but follow instructions. What did you mean when you said that ID-ers “accept so-called cell intelligence” from God’s design, if you did not mean that they accept so-called cell intelligence from God’s design?

DAVID: No change in ID or my view of their theory about cell intelligence. Final repeat: cells act as if they are innately intelligent, but are simply following intelligent information in their genome.

dhw: You don’t need to repeat your fixed belief. The point here is that you have persistently argued that cellular intelligence has no current followers – ignoring all the websites I have referred you to. You then suggested that your theory was the norm in ID, but now it turns out that ID-ers accept that God (though not mentioned by name) is the designer of cellular intelligence. Thank you for enlisting ID-ers to support Shapiro’s theory (and mine).

Remember the cells follow God's instructions and are not independent of them. As for Shapiro, and his bacterial studies, the bacterial ability to edit DNA is required to survive their battles as free-living single-celled organisms. What that might translate into in the evolution of higher forms is pure theory.