Introducing the brain: new consciousness research (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, July 05, 2020, 23:09 (1600 days ago) @ dhw

Looks for parts of the brain aware of 'I' and 'Me' which brings awareness of the body into the picture:

https://mindmatters.ai/2020/07/the-grammar-of-consciousness-i-vs-me/

"In a long and interesting (paywalled) article about theories of consciousness, we learn about efforts to distinguish between “I” and “me.” In one experiment, a neuroscientist, Catherine Tallon-Baudry has tried to distinguish:

"This time, they homed in on the distinction between “I” and “me”. Tallon-Baudry says “I” captures the most basic aspect of self – the aspect that comes before thought, the unified entity that does the thinking. It is fundamentally different from the kind of reflection about “me” that implies monitoring different bodily functions without that sense of unity.

"To see if they could show that the brain treats those two concepts differently too, Tallon-Baudryʼs team asked people who were having their brain scanned to fixate on a point and then let their mind wander. Every now and then, they were interrupted and asked whether – at that precise moment – they were thinking about “me” or “I”, which they had been trained to recognise. Depending on which they reported, the HEP occurred in different parts of the brain: a region near the front for “me” thoughts and one further back for “I” thoughts. This showed for the first time that the brain does indeed discern between the two concepts.

"It shouldn’t be a big surprise if the brain distinguishes between the two concepts because subject (I, the person who makes things happen) and object (me, the person who experiences something) are more or less fundamental ideas."

Comment: Not a surprise. We have constant internal body awareness as well as positional awareness. There should be two interpretive parts in the brain. But this has to do with the conscious state, an awareness animals also have, not the other meaning of consciousness which has to do with the generation of immaterial concepts