Introducing the brain: how emotions relate (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, March 06, 2020, 17:21 (1721 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: “To be clear”, I find your concept of “blank” incomprehensible. I understand by “blank” that there is nothing – whatever it is, is empty. If the baby arrives with a brain containing proper areas and connections and individual characteristics, it is not blank or empty. Future experiences will of course go on developing and changing whatever connections and characteristics it started out with.

DAVID: Not that complex for you to understand. Yes the brain is prepared to receive info, but until it receives the experiences, it is blank. Think of a blank paper before you type some words. Simple.

dhw: I understand the meaning of blank, and am pointing out that if, as you have agreed, the brain already contains proper areas and connections and individual characteristics, it is not blank. Simple.

DAVID: A major nuance of difference in interpretation. Until it receives the first important information to shape it s personality it is blank. Its mechanism lying in wait is not the issue as it relates to my statement. The fact that the mechanism might have slight differences due to differing inheritance is beside the point. It still starts blank.

dhw: It is not a nuance, it is a direct opposite. Here is our first exchange on the subject:

dhw: There are inborn characteristics, which a materialist would attribute to the genetic makeup.

DAVID: Of course there are inborn characteristics. It is the byplay that forms the adult brain through the brain's plasticity, but the brain itself is very blank in the beginning.
Then you wrote: "The baby brain arrives with the proper areas and connections, but the characteristics it brings along, that you note, are in the DNA of the neurons”.

dhw: Either the baby has inborn characteristics or it doesn’t. You agree that it does, so how can a brain containing inborn characteristics be a blank? I have defined “blank” above, so maybe you’d better define it too, as clearly we are not speaking the same language.

Let's use the comparison of a brain and a computer. When purchased it has certain abilities for use, but it contains no personal input information. It is blank to that point and it will change in what it contains when the info is added and then used. Intelligence levels appear to be variable at birth, so some brains start with advantage or disadvantage. IQ can be increased by teaching and training. My 'blank' is not about the brain as its inner construction attributes. The baby 'blank' state leaves the moment it starts to experience any input from the inside or the outside. Note this: most folks cannot remember before two years of age, because the proper memory elements haven't formed yet. Ability to open new blanks appear as the brain develops. I sharply remember two episodes two years and three months of age. It as if I suddenly appeared! We are discussing two different views of 'blank". I agree with you your baby brain started different than mine in how it was constructed. But that is not the blank I'm describing. Nuanced difference of how to view the brain. And to remind you, I am discussing my dualist view of a brain tool for my soul to use, something you keep forgetting, or pounce on if I don't remind you.