Miscellany (General)

by David Turell @, Saturday, June 26, 2021, 15:05 (112 days ago) @ dhw

Insect smell receptors

DAVID: I have to interpret from Darwinist articles. I can agree with an appearance of intelligence.

dhw: If you agree that these organisms appear to be intelligent, how can you dismiss the idea that they might actually BE intelligent? And why do you bring your pet hate Darwin into it? Meaningful patterns created through learning and experience coincide with Shapiro’s theory of cellular intelligence.

As above all we can know is that they act as if intelligent. You can't argue past that.

Plant cell regulators

DAVID: God in charge is not far-fetched.

dhw: Of course God in charge is not far-fetched. If he exists and can create a universe, then he can do whatever he likes. But that doesn’t mean he has to be a control freak, or that his sole purpose was to create humans and their lunch, or that he needed to preprogramme or dabble every species, lifestyle etc. that ever lived in order to achieve that purpose. You constantly resort to these generalizations in your effort to dodge the disconnected details of your theory.

My theory is not disconnected through accepting God's works. The God you imagine in not my God.

Cosmic filaments spin

DAVID: You are objecting to my belief God designed this universe.

dhw: If God exists, I have no objection to your belief that he designed the universe. In that context, it is his existence that is the BIG question. But if he does exist, I object to your belief that he would have designed billions of galaxies extant and extinct and millions of life forms etc. extant and extinct solely in order to design H. sapiens plus lunch.

God is my belief as to why we are here. How do you explain us?

Jupiter and Saturn have fevers

DAVID: You ask me to explain God's reasoning. You know I can't, nor can you. I don't try. No need.

dhw:I do not ask you to explain God’s reasoning, because nobody knows God’s reasoning! I ask you to explain YOUR THEORY about God’s reasoning and his actions. But you can’t. I offer you alternative theories, each of which provides a logical explanation as to how his possible reasoning and possible actions can make sense when combined. You agree that all these alternative explanations are logical, but prefer to cling to your fixed set of incompatible beliefs.

The bold is always your escape valve. I have agreed your theories are logical only if applied to your humanized God. Obviously you position is so weak, you must leave out that part of my thinking.

Possible new hominin species
QUOTE: "'We forget, even as anthropologists, that it’s really weird for us to be the only hominins left alive," says Laura Buck. (David’s bold)

DAVID: Variations in form should be considered rather than multiple species, but even so the hominin bush is big, and could be the result of different types interbreeding and hybridizing. Note my bold. I'm not surprised because of our probable superior brain.

dhw: It’s also weird that there have been so many different forms. So which were the forms that ultimately evolved into sapiens? And if the other forms were not part of the evolution of sapiens, where does this leave your theory of all life forms being specially designed as part of your God’s goal to design sapiens and our lunch? Were all the other hominins supposed to evolve into our lunch? :-) But I agree with your comment. It seems to me that this diversity suggests convergent evolution, as each hominin form (= each community of cell communities) evolved in accordance with the conditions in which it lived. The fact that some must have travelled and interbred with others would account for their traces being found in us, and once we started to travel, it makes perfect sense that our probably superior brain eventually resulted in our taking over.

Wow!!! We agree. I also think the giant hominin bush is convergent evolution with the fossils showing different adaptations to climate, etc. and definite hybridization, especially recognizing how strong our sex drive seems to be. Only bonobos match it.

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