Miscellany (General)

by David Turell @, Sunday, May 23, 2021, 16:22 (156 days ago) @ dhw

Fungi helped plants
DAVID: […] I believe God designs and speciates and provides intelligent information for organisms to use.

dhw: I have never understood the difference between information and “intelligent” information, and I have no idea what you mean by the latter. Could it mean that he provides the intelligence (my proposal) to organize cooperation and solve problems, or does it mean that he provides detailed formulas for all cooperation, and detailed solutions to every single problem that every single life form has faced and will face throughout the thousands of millions of years of life’s history past present and future?

DAVID: I throw in 'intelligent' to indicate it is God's information that makes organisms look and act as if intelligent.

dhw: So what information are you talking about? Do you mean “information” that gives them the AUTONOMOUS ABILITY to observe and process their observations of changing conditions, to communicate and cooperate with one another, and then to take decisions? Or do you mean detailed formulas and solutions provided by your God, as bolded above?

The issue you seem to struggle with is DNA is coded information which creates living organisms and instructs the underlying biochemical process of life. It allows for experiential actions and reactions.


Gamma rays
DAVID: ...as with yesterday's entry, it shows the universe is filled with dangerous activity. And luckily where we live the Earth is tucked into a safe spot in our galaxy. I still presume God knows what He is doing and don't question it.

dhw: If God exists, I would also presume he knows what is doing. What I question is your fixed belief that in the context of evolution, you know precisely what he wanted to do and did, and you refuse to question your illogical presumptions about his purpose and his method of achieving it.

DAVID: I don't have to question my conclusions based on logical thought. I am convinced as noted above we are/were His goal.

dhw: That is ONE of your conclusions, but as always you prefer to edit out the rest of your theory because, as you admit, you have no idea why, if we were his goal, he would have deliberately designed “de novo” all those life forms and food supplies that had no connection with us, and yet you are also “convinced” that he did so.

God is obviously in the role of creator. We are here. Therefore God created us. We evolved, so that was the method He used. Your approach is why any God at all? You question, I've stopped. We even interpret the process of evolution very differently.


Complete thread:

 RSS Feed of thread

powered by my little forum