Miscellany (General)

by David Turell @, Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 18:41 (26 days ago) @ dhw

Fine tuning

dhw: […] Your posts on all the scientific developments and life forms and natural wonders are a continuous education, but if you use them as “evidence” for your theory, you cannot expect me to leave unchallenged what I consider to be flawed conclusions.

DAVID: Then don't tell me to stop backpedaling. I don't accept your lack of logic about my beliefs.

dhw: Written indelibly on December 9 2020 at 15.14, under “Evolution: fish to land animals in transition”, in relation to the theory bolded above: [dhw: now bolded below]

DAVID: You are correct. I have no idea why He uses that method.

DAVID: And it doesn't matter to me. I accept He made a choice to do it by evolution. So why look for an unknown reason? Perfectly logical for an theist.

dhw: To do WHAT by evolution? Any theist who believes in evolution will agree that God chose evolution to fulfil his purpose. That is NOT the point at issue, and that is why you force me to repeat ad nauseam your insistence that the “unknown reason” for God’s creation of life was to design H. sapiens, but that evolution means the direct design of every life form and natural wonder, 99% of which had no connection with H. sapiens. And you agree that you have no idea why he would have chosen this method to fulfil this purpose.

And I've told you ad nauseum, God obviously uses evolution to evolve the universe, the Milky Way, the Earth, and life until He reaches His goal of humans with consciousness. and He does all by design of every stage. This is my firm unshakeable belief, based on all the evidence I have studied, starting as an agnostic.

dhw: There is no need for us to continue arguing about this, but if you continue to push isolated premises of your own theory as bolded above, at the expense of all my coherent (theistic) alternatives – the logic of which you acknowledge – you cannot expect me to remain silent!

DAVID: Your theories are all coherent for a humanized God, using your consistent primacies.

dhw: I do not have “consistent primacies”. I offer different theories to show how different methods can fit in with different “primacies”. Two of my theories (experimentation and getting new ideas as he goes along) allow for H. sapiens as your unknown “primacy”.

You're just back to defending a humanized sort of God you envision.

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