Evolution: more genomic evidence of pre-planning Part One (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, April 23, 2021, 19:27 (1099 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Of course it’s light use by comparison. The “heavy” use would have been the new requirement that necessitated additional cells in the first place. This new requirement then became part of ordinary life, and the new cells would have continued to perform their new function, joining in the process of complexification to cover all needs, until the next “heavy” requirement – in our case, 2500 years later.

All we have decided is God provided excess cells at the original enlargement of the sapiens brain, and with full use of the brain the excess was discarded by complexification. Light use of all neurons at first is certainly reasonable, allowing for free-will humans to use their new brain any way they wished.

dhw:The expansion was NOT overexpansion. You have just agreed that the additional cells were used “lightly”, but you ignore my proposal that these additional cells came into being because they were necessary

Necessary for only very light use, and available for heavy use later on. You can't get rid of an obvious excess that was provided initially by God to allow all sorts of future uses invented by humans..

dhw: It is you who denigrate your God by claiming that he gave us excessive neurons which proved unnecessary. Now suddenly you change your tune: the 150 cc were not excessive – now you think they were essential for the way complexification worked, and they even gave us our free will (which denotes the autonomy of complexification). So why were they made redundant?

DAVID: A clever design by God which prepares for whatever uses we free-will humans invent is not any form of denigration except in your twisted view.

dhw: Something has got lost here, but I have never excluded the possibility that the whole system was God’s clever design. The denigration was yours, in proposing that your God gave us 150cc of “excess” (i.e. unnecessary) cells. I keep saying that they were not unnecessary, and now you tell us that they were necessary for complexification. Please make up your mind.

My mind is solid. The excess neurons let us free-willed folks to use our brains we wished. God accepted us as He wished to create us.

DAVID: There are thousands of languages. The excess cells allowed for precise networking to fit each language. Makes my point.

dhw: Then why do you call them excess if we couldn’t have managed to speak our languages without them?

DAVID: The excess cells allowed a special complexification of the brain for all the different types of networks needed for different languages.

dhw: “Excess” means additional and unnecessary. How can they have been unnecessary if they enabled the brain to complexify in the manner required for our languages?

If they weren't needed and disappeared as we discovered different functions for the new- sized brain they were excessive to allow for proper tailoring and were purposely made available by God to allow us the privilege of our own evolution of our brain.

dhw: …why do you persist in ignoring current knowledge, that the brain RESPONDS to requirements and does not rearrange itself in anticipation of future needs?

DAVID: Our brain responds with complexification, a mechanism planned, designed and given by God. Therefore it can rearrange itself whenever necessary. You have my response.

dhw: Thank you for at last answering the question. We have now established once and for all that the brain complexifies autonomously in RESPONSE to new requirements (using a mechanism you believe was designed by your God). Bearing in mind that the modern hippocampus actually expands, why then do you assume that in the past, brains were unable to expand autonomously, and did NOT expand in response to new requirements but had to be operated on so your God could give them additional cells in anticipation of unknown future requirements?

God speciates. Only the hippocampus must expand as we learn to do new tricks/procedures with our brain and must add memory. Older brains were most likely the same with new organisms building upon what was done in the past. Why do you day dream possibilities not based on what we know about brains from today's brain? In my view today's brain's mechanisms mimic what happened in past brains.