Evolution: fish to land animals transition (Evolution)

by dhw, Friday, December 04, 2020, 12:35 (1236 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Again a weak humanized God devised by your fertile imagination, wandering around from point to point, not sure of how to go forward.

dhw: But the history of evolution is precisely that: it branches out into millions of life forms and econiches and natural wonders, 99% of which have died out and had no connection with humans. “Point to point”. You cannot explain why your God would have directly designed them all if his goal was humans. You claim that they were all part of that goal but can find no connection yourself, and you come up with the idea that his powers were limited so he “had to design them” before he could design us. Why is this limitation of his powers any “weaker” than a God who experiments to get what he wants, or who learns and gets new ideas as he goes along?

DAVID: As before I believe in a God who knows exactly what he is doing, and if He was forced to evolve us, He recognized His problem and proceeded with evolution. As for the branching, God knew we would reach enormous numbers of us and all the ecosystems provide a necessary food supply, all logically explained before.

What “forced” him to evolve us, and above all, what forced him to evolve [= directly design] millions of life forms that had no connection with us if all he wanted to evolve was us and our food supply? How could ALL the ecosystems, 99% of which had no connection with us, have been necessary for us? Why do you keep ignoring your own statements: “The current huge bush of food is NOW for humans NOW. There were smaller bushes in the PAST for PAST forms.” “Extinct life has no role in current time.”

DAVID: I don't recognize your illogical complaint at all, from my belief in God. We've covered the point that He either had to evolve us or chose to evolve us. Either way I view him as in charge of creation, and your strange complaint as a criticism of God's methodology. The 99% simply represent evolution from bacteria to us and the huge current bush is food supply for a huge human population and is developed from all the previous 99% branching.

Why did he “have to” or “choose to” evolve [= directly design] millions of life forms that had no connection with us in order to evolve [= directly design] all the different hominins and homos that led to us? We have not covered it. That is the illogical interpretation of your God’s purpose and methodology that you insist is the only possible one, even though you acknowledge the logic of all the alternatives I have suggested. You have demolished the food supply arguments yourself in the statements bolded above.