Cosmologic philosophy: Egnor on Big Bang, etc. (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 15:03 (1152 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: In July this year you informed me that “the problem you are not seeing is, there is no before before the BB. Time didn’t exist. This was proven by Guth, Borde and Valenkin by mathematics years ago, presented by my books and here.” I asked: “Do you believe your God would have sat there for eternity and done absolutely nothing until he decided to make a big bang out of himself? If one big bang, why not millions of big bangs?” It is the fact that you had not considered the possibility of previous BBs that makes you now accept that your statement made in July (emphatically reiterating your beliefs of 17 years ago, and even blaming me for not "seeing the problem") was wrong. Nobody can possibly know or prove what did or did not exist before the BB. Why don’t you leave it at that?

DAVID: I think we now agree. I hadn't considered the possibility of prior BB's seventeen years ago. With that point made, it is obvious there was prior time within prior possible BB's.

dhw: Thank you. I’m glad we agree.

DAVID: Since Guth hadn't considered prior BB's Guth made no mistake.

dhw: No “thank you”. Apparently pre-Copernicans didn’t make a mistake when they believed the sun went round the earth. They just hadn’t considered the possibility that the earth went round the sun.

And Darwin made lots of mistakes, because He didn't know better like we now do. I've said not his fault!!! Your Guth-illogic damns Darwin.