Cosmologic philosophy: conscious universe (Introduction)

by dhw, Friday, January 06, 2017, 13:17 (2878 days ago) @ David Turell

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2017/01/the-conscious-universe-a-radical-theory-th...

QUOTES: " Wheeler suggested that reality is created by observers and that: “no phenomenon is a real phenomenon until it is an observed phenomenon. […] He went further to suggest that “we are participants in bringing into being not only the near and here, but the far away and long ago.”

"The results of this experiment, as well as another conducted in 2007, proved what Wheeler had always suspected – observers’ consciousness is required to bring the universe into existence. This means that a pre-life Earth would have existed in an undetermined state, and a pre-life universe could only exist retroactively. (David’s bold)

"You Are the Universe literally means what it says--each of us is a co-creator of reality extending to the vastest reaches of time and space. This seemingly impossible proposition follows from the current state of science, where outside the public eye, some key mysteries cannot be solved, even though they are the very issues that define reality itself:
"What Came Before the Big Bang?
Why Does the Universe Fit Together So Perfectly?
Where Did Time Come From?
What Is the Universe Made Of?
Is the Quantum World Linked to Everyday Life?
Do We Live in a Conscious Universe?
How Did Life First Begin?"

David’s comment: the bolded paragraph does away with the philosophic question we had when this was discussed before. It proposes that the universe is in an anticipatory state until we arrive. Another part of the article discusses the brain as a receiver of consciousness from the quantum standpoint, not the NDE research. The whole article is fascinating.

I have tried three times to log onto the article, but can’t get beyond the sensationalist headline. However, thank you for these quotes. I can’t see how they do away with the objections I raised before. How on earth this “seemingly” impossible proposition can be said to result from the current state of science is beyond me. Science is a product of human consciousness. Current scientific consciousness has established that there was a pre-life universe. Wheeler’s theory proposes that what current scientific consciousness has established (pre-life universe) is not true, because according to him, current scientific consciousness has established that what current scientific consciousness has established (pre-life universe) did not exist until scientific consciousness established it. Scientific consciousness has therefore established that there was a pre-life universe and there was no pre-life universe, so which of these “truths” is true? It’s a similar philosophical cul de sac to the statement “I am a liar.” (Is the speaker telling the truth?)

I am not the one playing games here. If the sun did not exist until we discovered that the sun existed, we may as well chuck away all our science books and ignore most of the mysteries listed above, because apparently there was no big bang, no universe, no life until we arrived on the scene and then…did what? Invented them all? Here is a counter proposition, which I think has been confirmed by countless billions of experiments and observations: the world we observe exists independently of our observation. That does not mean that our observation is objective. It means that the sun existed even when there were no conscious beings to observe it. And despite my notorious agnosticism, I actually believe that. Sorry to be so boringly conventional.