Cosmologic philosophy: Egnor on Big Bang, etc. (Introduction)

by dhw, Sunday, August 08, 2021, 08:27 (1203 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: The truism is nothing can come from nothing. It is not THEORY for me. Something comes from something. Some form of conscious energy had to preexist our reality.

dhw: And so you agree with me that this spacetime-containing universe did NOT simply appear from nothing, and the most recent evidence is wrong. […]

DAVID: God did it.

So clearly you don’t agree with “current scientific thought”.

dhw: You do not know that the period preceding the BB, in which your God may have created countless spacetime universes, was not in spacetime. And how can you say time did not exist if time existed when BBs appeared?

DAVID: Time is present only in the spacetime of a specific universe or universes.
And later:
DAVID: True 'time' exists only when spacetime exists in specific universes, not in the interval between universes, assuming God made more than one.

If there has been a sequence of universes, then already you agree that time did not begin with our BB, and I have no idea why you should consider that an interval before one universe and before another universe does not constitute a sequence of before and after.

DAVID: Eternal God exists not in time but timelessly.

If eternal God has eternally been creating universes in a sequence of befores and afters, and if we define time as a sequence of before and afters, with “now” as each moment in between, then time has always existed. What do you mean by “timeless” if you don’t mean eternal?