Cosmologic philosophy: quantum conscious universe (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 14:45 (2461 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: …since we have no known proven source for thought, and the universe appears to contain consciousness, I still think God is the universal consciousness and we humans are granted a piece of it. Bottom up panpsychism comes from what?

dhw: From first cause energy and matter. God comes from what?

DAVID: And WHO is the first cause energy. God

dhw: Or WHAT is the first cause? Energy and matter. 50/50.

DAVID: The initial Big Bang was pure energy. Matter developed from it.

dhw: You are assuming that the Big Bang took place, but it remains a theory and is far from being undisputed. However, even if it did take place, nobody can tell us what existed and happened before the Big Bang, so one speculation is as good or bad as another.

DAVID: Current cosmological theory (Guth et. al.) says that there is no 'before' before the origin of the universe. The universe had an origin.

dhw: Since nobody can possibly know, and since you believe that nothing can come from nothing and that the universe was preceded by a conscious mind, and since you cannot have a clue what that conscious mind got up to before the Big Bang - if the Big Bang actually happened, which is open to doubt - I’m surprised you cling so faithfully to current cosmological theory (Guth et al.)

Spoken like a true agnostic. We are either willing to accept the best research science we have, or we don't. I accept it as the best starting point for thoughtful reflection on cause and effect.