Cosmologic philosophy: Egnor on Big Bang, etc. (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, July 31, 2021, 16:02 (1211 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: You are poo-pooing a widely accepted peer-reviewed paper stating that time started with the BB.

dhw: Correct. Now please give me a logical answer to my objections.

Your objections don't recognize the obvious point time starts with the BB. Of course whatever was 'before' is all theoretical

DAVID: What logic do you need? Space and time started at the BB.

dhw: How can you possibly know THAT if you don’t know what happened before the BB?

DAVID: When did your 'time' start?

dhw: Like everyone else, I have no idea when time as I define it started, and that is why I cannot accept any theory as being the ultimate truth.

I agree there is no known proof prior to the BB, but time as you define it defies current cosmological philosophical thinking about our spacetime and its start.

DAVID: Totally logical. Our time begins at the BB. We can only theorize about our concept of 'before'.

dhw: Of course OUR time begins at the BB (if it happened) as in my bolded statement above. Thank you for repeating it. That does not mean that time, as a sequence of before-present-after, did not exist before the BB. As once more you rightly observe: we can only theorize about it. So please don’t tell me that somebody’s theory must be right just because peer-reviewers agree with it.

Sequential time is the way we humans experience it, nothing more. If before the BB there are no humans to experience the sequences to create the impression of a passage of events, no clocks, is time present? Does God see a series of BB's as creating time for Him? Many BB's could have happened. All this discussion is created in our heads. As I view God time doesn't exist for Him, but He sees its operation for us.