Unanswered questions (General)

by David Turell , Saturday, September 07, 2019, 19:27 (1902 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I don't try to understand. I simply accept that God does what He wants to do, and He chose to evolve, as you agree to above.

dhw: You “simply accept” your fixed belief that he had only one purpose (H. sapiens), chose to wait 3.X billion years before starting to fulfil his purpose, and therefore had to cover the time by specially designing (your interpretation of the evolutionary process) millions of non-human life forms to eat or be eaten by one another. You “cannot understand His choices” means you cannot understand the choice you impose on him with this theory. Now you don’t even try to understand it, because you know as well as I do that it makes no sense...

DAVID:You then turn around and with your humanized God you wonder why HE wanted to wait.

dhw: …and then you try to distract attention from its senselessness by saying that any other explanation which DOES make sense “humanizes” God, as if you know that God can’t possibly think in any way that a human might consider to be logical!

DAVID: Once again, I don't question God's choices. I assume reality as God's works and the results are his choices. My God didn't worry about the time taken as He is timeless. You humanized God seems to fret about everything.

dhw: Once again, you don’t question your INTERPRETATION of God’s choices. He didn’t worry (how very human of him) about the time taken…Well of course not, because according to you he actually decided not to start fulfilling his one and only purpose for 3.X billion years, though you have no idea why.

I have to use human words in describing God's thoughts. We don't have words just for God, and you know that .

Under “doubting Darwin” we have the same problem:

DAVID: My fixed belief is that God made all major design changes for new species.

But you keep insisting that your God also specially designed every natural wonder and every lifestyle and every econiche! And as with cellular intelligence, so too with your fixed belief that your God had only one goal (though see “Natural Wonders & Evolution” for a possible dramatic change in this fixed belief), decided not to fulfil it for 3.X billion years, and therefore had to design the rest of life’s bush to cover the time he had decided to take. Your mind would seem to be closed, even though you admit that cells “can” be automatic (and therefore “can” be autonomous), and you have no idea why your God chose the above method of fulfilling his one and only goal.

From above: "Once again, I don't question God's choices. I assume reality as God's works and the results are his choices. My God didn't worry about the time taken as He is timeless. You humanized God seems to fret about everything." As for cells making minor adaptations epigenetically , we know God gave them that degree of ability, and we know nothing beyond that as a cause of speciation, which always requires major design changes, something you seem not to appreciate. God is my designer.