Unanswered questions (General)

by David Turell @, Friday, May 17, 2019, 19:04 (1777 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Yes indeed, and you have “no idea” why your God would choose this method of designing H. sapiens.

DAVID: I simply accept it as God's choice.

dhw: You do not accept it as God’s choice. You accept your own interpretation of God’s choice, even though you have no idea why he would make such a choice.

We view God entirely differently. As stated in the other thread, God has the perfect right to decide to evolve humans from previously evolved organisms.


dhw: I accept our exceptionality. I do not accept that your God specially designed every single life form, and did so in order that they should eat or not one another until he specially designed H. sapiens. [See later re the bold]

DAVID: Fine, noting you don't accept God, but don't reject Him either. that makes your view of Him different than mine.

dhw: An agnostic has just as much right as a theist to interpret a possible God’s purposes and methods, and my agnosticism does not in any way invalidate the arguments I advance against your own personal interpretation of these. In fact I suspect quite a few theists would have trouble “accepting” your version of your God’s choice.

I have my own personal view of God.I doubt many other theists would agree with me. This is not an election of concept by a vote of views


DAVID: Again, the Adler argument regarding our special place in evolution. You cannot deny our exceptionality.

dhw: I keep agreeing that we are exceptional. See bold above. That does not answer my questions!

Yes it does. See next:


DAVID: Humans are a desired endpoint, but God decided to design everything from the bottom up. I view him as having to design everything to get to the final step, humans. It was all necessary, which you constantly gloss over. Your thinking about God's method is totally distorted. He followed a proper stepwise evolutionary plan to reach an endpoint, humans

dhw: Why was it "necessary" for your God to specially design dinosaurs, whale flippers, cuttlefish camouflage, the monarch's lifestyle and the weaverbird’s nest in order to get to the “final step” which according to you he specially designed anyway? You have no idea, so please stop “glossing over” the incongruity that arises from your combined hypotheses.

I have explained over and over the need for ecosystems to feed the existing individuals in ongoing evolution. i don't need an explanation of God's choice. I accept it. You don't. I've not glossed over. You don't accept my answers as to my reasoning. For me, you have invented an objection that does not exist.


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